Guild Name: Thoughts & Feelings

Redwatch's ideas are better than my "House ...." ones.

I actually came up with an awesome name, prepare to be bowled over:

SAW: Security and Weaponry
It's aggresive, catchy, simple and based on that quite strange horror series. I think it perfectly embodies our deadliness if you were to ever get on our bad side, but it is as such that you could easily pass it over as a security firm.

I deal with "Code Blue" on a semi-regular basis at work...... does that make me part of the Galactic Republic? hmmm

@ H2: Personally although I like the term "Security & Weaponry", I cant STAND the SAW films That puts a real downer on the name for me I'm afraid! Not that my opinion speaks for more than me, ofc

Actually, that makes two of us. I can't really stand horror movies, but I respect it as a franchise.

*nods* though most 'horror' movies aren't really anything like proper horror movies these days. Wow. That just made me sound really old! (Where's my pipe and slippers?)

Lunarwolf wrote:

Where's my pipe and slippers?

Being mangled by your St. Bernard who's on your deluxe fabric arm chair.

I like the C.O.D.E. Red and Blue idea. I was trying to come up with options other than Red and Blue that better reflect TOR lore but I didn't come up with anything that went with C.O.D.E. as well as Red and Blue does.

I came up with a simalar idea to sureshot so now it looks like i'm ripping him off
the CODE idea sounds good but I'd personally like something diiferent then Blue/Red, more relevant?

Coalition of Diverse Republic Experts
C.O.D.R.E?

Coalition of Diverse Sith Experts
C.O.D.S.E?

I know that kinda sucks but maybe something similar, i was thinking of replacing experts with "Contractors"?

Coalition of Diverse Experts: Republic Delegates
CODE:RD
Coalition of Diverse Experts: Sith Delegates
CODE:SD

Just throwing out some ideas

I like Priory's idea of sticking a punctuation mark or word divider in the name. He's thinking along the same lines as I've been!

As in my latest and greatest guild name idea to date...



Not only is it saying ours is a European Role Play guild, it's designed to reflect the guild's two halves:

Empire Unison | Republic Partisans
Empire Unison : Republic Partisans
Empire Unison · Republic Partisans

Tied together with a moto such as:



It highlights the division but shows the 'Unisons' and 'Partisans' stand side by side (we don't have to call the teams that if people think it sounds lame!). It also allows the flexibility of one side disavowing the other when dealing with their faction's fanatics.

And thinking long-term, if Bioware do disallow cross-faction guild memberships we can set up:



And chat over Vent.

And thinking of a guild logo, it's a bit of a cliché but something merging the Empire logo, the Republic logo and the credit symbol.

"Empire Unison · Republic Partisans" has a great ring to it I'm guesing we'd have

Empire Unison · Sith Partisans

as well?

I like this better than "CODE" it sounds more professional and it has the double meaning
Maybe you could have some thing at the beginning as well like a what you suggested

Mal Eidoss, Empire Unison

So "Mal Eidoss" is the name "Empire Unison" shows where untited across the factions? and then just have RP or SP at the end depending of which side your on? or am i overcomplicating it

EU : European Union : Empire Unison
RP : Role Play : Republic Partisans

But Red, our logo is already two blasters crossed over Coruscant and our motto is "Smaller Solutions to Bigger Problems"

Though a good idea, I have to argue against it. I don't like the idea of having anything that even relates to OOC, in-game, including EU and RP. Though you could always argue that in-game, roleplaying people aren't supposed to know about OOC, their OOC players will and for them, it will ruin the illusion of playing a roleplaying game, like someone leaping around with the name "Anikin" or chanceing across a player-made town named "Sparta". Again, these people would agure that in-game, these names are chanced upon for the in-game characters, but for OOC players, this ruins the illusion.
Everytime someone says "It's the EURP!" or "I'm from the EURP" They'll know what our guild's about, but they'll be upset since the mood is ruined. I don't think the name is good anyway, it is difficult to remember, a big mouthful when said in its long form, while if said in it's abbreviation, it sounds like someone's throwing up. EURP doesn't even advertise our services. I can imagine people saying "So... Empire Unison, Republic Partisans, they're a neutral political group?".

That's my arguement No offense Red, it is a good idea, just one that I don't see working.

I have to agree with Harly on this one. It sounds way too OOC for my liking. I see what you've done though but I dunno, it just doesn't ring well in my ears. Maybe because I don't feel it reflects the guild backstory. To me it sounds too focused on factions & the war and the guild really doesn't care too much for the greater scheme of things if you see what I mean?

Ah well, we'll get there in the end!

Will you be showing the Guild name condensed or in full in-game? Just so we know what to watch out for, (also in game if its not condensed it won't be an issue)

What about:

SAW: Security and Weaponry
It's aggresive, catchy and simple. I think it perfectly embodies our deadliness if you were to ever get on our bad side, but it is as such that you could easily pass it over as a security firm.

I posted it in a while ago, but no-one seemed to comment on it. Or:

The SSS Syndicate: The Smuggling, Sabotage and Security Syndicate
Normally known as the SSS. Again, agressive, catchy and simple. It immediately explains what we're about, with Syndicate on the end expressing that we're a group/team.

Redwatch wrote:

Tied together with a moto such as:

Every coin has two sides
And business is business

I love that Moto

But we already have our motto: "Smaller Solutions to Bigger Problems"

didn't say we should change it, just said that I loved it . Can't really think of one so I'll shout a few things out

Wolves of the Emipire
Blood Money
Contracts in Blood
Hidden & Dangerous
Fortune Favours the Few

haha if you didn't guess most of these are Game titles that are right next to me.

Doh! That pretty much blows my last idea out of orbit! Never mind, just spewing out ideas.
Can I get something cleared up though...?

Harlequin2 wrote:

But Red, our logo is already two blasters crossed over Coruscant and our motto is "Smaller Solutions to Bigger Problems"

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But we already have our motto: "Smaller Solutions to Bigger Problems"

As we haven't settled on a name yet, aren't these things still subject to change?

I don't recall these being set in stone, being more of a stop-gap measure, much like "Blasters for Hire". I mean, once we have the perfect guild name won't we want the motto and logo to perfectly match it?

Maybe once we have the name pinned down we could open up a logo discussion thread? (I'm assuming the motto will be picked along side the name here on this thread.) That is, unless the ones Harl has quoted are definitely sticking with us regardless of the final name.

Harly's right "A Smaller Solution To Bigger Problems" is the guild motto. It fits perfectly with what we're about and thats a definite.

You're more than welcome to start a guild logo thread if you want mate, but as creative director I was going to see what your thoughts were on one. Any ideas?

Redwatch wrote:

Every coin has two sides
And business is business

Haha I'm going to steal it for Tando's Motto then

Sureshot wrote:

Harly's right "A Smaller Solution To Bigger Problems" is the guild motto. It fits perfectly with what we're about and thats a definite.

Oh dear. I must have missed the discussion on that becoming official. I would have piped up my strong objections then. But if it's "a definate" then I guess that's that.

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You're more than welcome to start a guild logo thread if you want mate, but as creative director I was going to see what your thoughts were on one. Any ideas?

A few. Once we're up and running with the name I think a new thread would be a good idea.

So, what about my SAW and SSS Syndicate ideas, above?
I'm waiting patiently for everyone's consideration...

Harlequin2 wrote:

So, what about my SAW and SSS Syndicate ideas, above?
I'm waiting patiently for everyone's consideration...

Well SAW sounds a bit OOC for me (from the film) and SSS Syndicate sounds like a guy with a stutter lol

Nah I think maybe to many S's and it doesn't explain all we do, what about "hits" "enforcement" etc I'm not sure trying to explain all we do at in our name is a good idea, tbh I'm not sure what the parameters are that we need to stick to

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I have to agree with Harly on this one. It sounds way too OOC for my liking. I see what you've done though but I dunno, it just doesn't ring well in my ears. Maybe because I don't feel it reflects the guild backstory. To me it sounds too focused on factions & the war and the guild really doesn't care too much for the greater scheme of things if you see what I mean? Ah well, we'll get there in the end!

How much of the backstroy can we cover in a name is all? Will it be the name of where the guild was formed or when? etc
I can understand why SS doesn't want to make a decision now but if we don't make it too SW lore heavy I think we'd be fine.

I say we stick with the C.O.D.E thing....

For my money, I'd stick with the C.O.D.E idea, though I have to say although I understand and appreciate the reasoning behind C.O.D.E Red and C.O.D.E Blue, I still think C.O.D.E.X sounds, looks and feels better. I'm not too worried about the 40k connections because, lets be honest, they stole the idea from religion anyway, which they did because the Space Marine Chapters had heavy religious overtones.

With regards to the motto, I'm with Red on the "it's official?" confusion. I love the motto, and I think it's one we should really consider using... but I had no idea it was official. Seems a little premature to have an official motto before an official name?

I thought that from the early start that SS made it clear that our motto was "Smaller Solutions to Bigger Problems", though I can't find the thread. I do admit, it's a great motto, now we just need a name to suit it.

I do like the C.O.D.E idea, but not with red and blue, just C.O.D.E. As said before, red is more deadly than blue and so it would give the impression that we put more emphasis on one faction and aspect of danger than another, which I don't think is what we're going for. Besides, though Sith may be strictly with red clothing and weapons, the Republic does use red armour aswell, such as on the trooper and in vehicle shots. Besides, in my opinion, C.O.D.E sounds better on its own, it's snappy and with a good long-form.


But I don't think that SAW should sound OOC, sure, it shares the same name as the horror movie but honestly, I don't think it matters that much. A saw is a real instrument that is also used in the Star Wars Universe. It is made to slice through things that other tools (such as a knife, spear or hand) could not, or at least take much, much longer. In the game, others could not do, say, kill a Jedi, so they would hire a "SAW" that could do it, and faster aswell. We can cut through things, can not just other people, problems such as negotiations, and pathways for smuggling.

But a saw is deadly, if maltreated, (in-game: not paid, insulted, etc.), it can end up badly for you. And, obviously, a saw can be used as a weapon, deadly, sharp, precise. Three factors that embody the guild. So what if it is named like a movie series (by rotten luck may I add)? Isn't a great name above all that? Tell, me, what would strike more fear into an opponent, "It's a SAW!" or "It's a CODE!"? I would like a better arguement than simply "It's named after a horror movie"