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PostSubject: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 9:43 am

According to this we have a chance to ally ourselves with 3 allies and 3 adversaries:

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How many allies and adversaries can a guild have?

A guild may designate a total of three allies and/or adversaries.

We will make reasonable efforts to place as many qualifying groups of allies and adversaries as possible together on the same server. Given the volume of anticipated guilds (as well as other factors), we unfortunately cannot guarantee that all specified allies and adversaries will be placed on your server.

It also appears that we will be designated to certain servers via timezone. So in accordance to the new rules, who would you pick as our adversaries/allies assuming we get 3 each?

ALLIES:

1. Hands of Darkness
2. Sith'ari Path (assuming they're going European)
3. The Black Wings


ADVERSARIES:

1. The Praxeum
2. Paragon Paladins
3. ?


The reason I've left out S.D.I is because they've chosen PvP as a focus and the reason RoM have been left out is because they've chosen a US timezone.

If this means we only get 3 choices in total then obviously I'd go with this:

1. Hands of Darkness
2. The Praxeum
3. ? (I'd have to think hard about the last one)

They look like the most sensible choices in my opinion anyway.




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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 10:19 am

I would pick out RoM because they are historic allies. We may or may not play with them if they pick US server and if we pick EU. Yet as said I'd pick them up because well... they are our allies since even before I was around.

Quite honestly those Paladins or Black wing... Those aren't allies, I don't even know them! No offense meant against them...
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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 10:28 am

Nah, whilst yes the RoM are historic allies with us, it looks like they'll be limited to play-by-post RPs due to choosing a US server, and since they've done that there's no way we can play with them without being potentially dragged onto one ourselves.
The Paladins are a loose connection. We contacted them a long time ago and we've heard from them in piecemeal. I suggest ditching them both in favour of the Sith'ari (a little bias here), I honestly think they're good guys to go for, and besides, it's better to have more allies than enemies.
And as for Black Wings, I have absolutely no idea where they sprung from.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 10:44 am

Well there were talks with the Paladins a while back but I don't think anything came of it. As much as I'd love to see RoM make it into our final alliance list, I personally can't see it happening due to the amount of differences between the two guilds.

Here's what it says on their guild page:

# Allegiance to: The Sith Empire
# PvP
# English, US East (EST)


Whilst ours looks more like this:

# Allegiance to: The Sith Empire
# RP
# English, Europe (GMT)
# Moderate (10-20 hrs/week), heavy roleplaying, scheduled play sessions, forum and website usage required, chatty/talkative
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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 11:00 am

So my point is if we don't put RoM who are indeed an allied guild, let's no put non-allied guilds like those paladins or black wing...
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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 11:05 am

Sorry for the double post but I just thought I'd left you know that Derriphan and I have confirmed that EPOCH & HoD will be the first chosen allies:

Sureshot wrote:
So then "Phase 2" guys...... Wink

After reading the new alignment section things are looking promising! We have the choice of 3 allies and 3 adversaries by the looks of things . I'm pretty damn sure you 'orrible, wonderful, yet somehow profitable Sithlings are our #1 choice ally and I'm guessing that the Praxeum will be our first adversary seeing as we're part of the original "old skool" triumvirate.

Anyway I'm intrigued in swapping some ideas with some of the guild leaders (that means you Big Momma D.) about what would best benefit our chosen server, should the newly applied rules stand.

Ideally I think it's best if we get all leaders of EPOCH, HoD and the Prax together for a bit of a chat but there's no rush. At the end of the day I'm just making sure that my guild end up on the same server as the best.

What d'ya think?

Darth Derriphan wrote:
Phase 2 should be rather interesting.

E.P.O.C.H WILL Certainly be our top choice in the Allies section, there is no doubt about that Very Happy

I think there is a select group of RP guilds that we should all make sure band together, and agree we'll need to all meet up and discuss our options.

Pretty obvious stuff as I'm sure you already knew this was happening but I thought I'd let you know.

Now about the Sith'ari Path, I agree that they'd make the perfect ally (and have) but I even have my doubts that they'll make it to launch due to the lack of activity and preparation. I can't even find them on the Guild pages. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 3:06 pm

Well that was a surprise I have to say. It seems the Path are very interested in joining us on the server we all get "dumped on". Smile

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I think we should be opportunistic when choosing location, as location will determine the server. So we should aim for the server with the most interesting RP allies and adversaries. For example, if Agents of the EPOCH is on a European server this would make me choose this server over the other ones. I do not want to restrict membership of TSP on the basis of geography. I think we can make a lively and interesting guild with members all over the world. And I like the fact that guild chat is never quiet whenever you log on ;-)

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Hey ya guys, just thought I'd let you know that the Agents of the E.P.O.C.H Guild Page is up and running and to confirm what Sharasvar has said we will definitely be heading to a European RP server alongside the likes of RP giants such as The Hands of Darkness and hopefully The Praxeum. We're currently in the process of deciding our allies & adversaries for Phase 2 but depending on what you guys decide we're still extremely interested in adding you to our allies list. So far only HoD have confirmed an official alliance with E.P.O.C.H for Phase 2 but the offers there if you guys to decide to join us. Smile

Sharasvar wrote:
Oh, and we should decide quickly, before some Bantha poodoo runs away with our guild name... So I give everyone until Monday to weigh in.

EDIT: Thanks Sureshot for your timely intervention and your kind offer. Personally I'm all for an alliance with EPOCH and looking forward to RPing with HoD and the Praxeum!

Assuming they can all agree to go on the same server then we should have our second official Phase 2 ally. Fingers crossed!
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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 6:59 pm

Although all the Guilds who have contacted us in the past have been courteous and interested, if it looks like we pick 3 Guilds total rather than 3 allies & 3 adversaries (which BW could be a *tad* more specific about Razz) then my money is most definately on:

* Hands of Darkness (Ally)
* The Praxeum (Adversary)
* The Sith'ari Path (Ally)

Though of course we're actually neutral so it should read:

* Hands of Darkness (Opportunity)
* The Praxeum (Opportunity)
* The Sith'ari Path (Opportunity)

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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptyFri Mar 11, 2011 4:01 am

Well if it's only 3 combined then yeah I think thats the best bet for all 3. I'm still waiting for a confirmation from the Praxeum and I believe a final decision from the Path will be coming next Monday.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliances & Adversaries   Alliances & Adversaries EmptySun Mar 13, 2011 12:05 pm

More updates on this current topic:

The Praxeum are pretty much confirmed as our Adversary:

Iorio wrote:
Hey Sureshot! Smile

It'd be our pleasure to be ya'lls continued 'Adversary'! I know we had plans to ninja ya'll onto our own list. Very Happy

Also the Sith'ari Path are now our 2nd official ally:

Sharasvar wrote:
Thanks Sureshot for your timely intervention and your kind offer. Personally I'm all for an alliance with EPOCH and looking forward to RPing with HoD and the Praxeum!

Also there's plans of "chain-linking" RP guilds over at SW:TOR RP that some of you might find interesting.
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